Ping ([info]zestyping) wrote,
@ 2007-01-17 15:13:00
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What $1.2 trillion can buy.
This is a summary of David Leonhardt's piece in today's New York Times. He didn't provide numbers for everything, but the case is compelling. Thanks to Moira for pointing out this article.

Option A:
Doubled funding for the National Cancer Institute $6 billion/year
Treatment for every American with unmanaged heart disease or diabetes $50 billion/year
Universal preschool for 3-year-olds and 4-year-olds $35 billion/year

Total $91 billion/year
For ten years $910 billion
Additional funding needed to save 10 million more lives in the next ten years of immunization campaigns in the 72 poorest countries $15 billion
 
Funding to stop the Taliban in Afghanistan $10 billion/year
9/11 Commission recommendations for cargo screening and anti-nuclear-proliferation measures $10 billion/year
Reconstruction funds for New Orleans (unspecified)
Peacekeeping force in Darfur (unspecified)

Option B:
Military operations in Iraq $120 billion/year
For the entire course of the war $700 billion
 
One quarter of the rise in oil prices (the war's estimated contribution) $150 billion
Replacing hardware used in Iraq and restoring the military $100 billion
Veterans' medical care and disability payments $250 billion

Invasion and occupation of Iraq $1200 billion

The $1.2 trillion estimate comes from Wallsten and Kosec (their site also has an interactive estimation tool that lets you adjust the assumptions they made to come up with your own estimate). Another well-known estimate puts the cost of the war at over $2 trillion, which includes an estimate of the economic value of the injuries and lives lost.



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[info]threadwalker
2007-01-18 02:49 am UTC (link)
Wow. Just wow. And sadness.

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[info]cuthalion
2007-01-18 04:53 am UTC (link)
I often think that the high cost of the war is, to a large extent, the real reason we are at war. Most of that spent money isn't going away, it's just moving around.

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3 year olds in pre-school?!
(Anonymous)
2007-01-18 03:30 pm UTC (link)
That is ridiculous.

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Re: 3 year olds in pre-school?!
(Anonymous)
2007-01-18 07:05 pm UTC (link)
kids are smarter than you think.

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Re: 3 year olds in pre-school?!
[info]anemone
2007-01-18 07:08 pm UTC (link)
There is some (though inconclusive) evidence that it helps disadvantaged kids to be in preschool (I'm thinking of programs such as HeadStart).

According to this, 60% of low-income families have no books at all, and 80% have no age appropriate books.

I'm not for trying to stuff academic knowledge into the heads of young kids--I think kindergarden these days is too academic--but for children in an environment that doesn't consist of two well-educated parents wealthy enough to pay for quality child care (say, instead, being watched by the no-job holding, drinks-beer-all-day step grandfather), pre-school might matter quite a bit.

(I saw the results on HeadStart were inconclusive, because while it helped, the effects wore off when the kids stopped getting special help.)

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10 million lives
(Anonymous)
2007-01-18 07:03 pm UTC (link)
In the US, developing treatments for cancer and treating all americans with heart disease or diabetes doesn't even include the economic benefits of having a healthy workforce which will lead to a decrease in poverty and homelessness - often the consequence of inability to seek or pay for medical bills, and support oneself and one's family when burdened with cancer, diabetes or heart disease.

The operation in Iraq is costing $300 million / day. 10 days of war = the National Cancer Institute budget for a whole year. 3 weeks would double the annual NCI budget.

How about something more tangible,
like saving 10 million lives - what would that cost?
According the WHO, vaccinating the population among the 72 poorest nations in the world would cost $1 billion /year ( or 3 days of the Iraq war) and over 10 years would save 10 million lives (or 1 month of the Iraq war).

1 month of Iraq war = 10 million lives.
http://www.path.org/files/Costing_10_years_WHO.pdf




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Re: 10 million lives
[info]zestyping
2007-01-18 08:54 pm UTC (link)
Thank you! I'll add this information to the table.

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Who got the 1.2 trillion?
[info]waymark
2007-01-24 07:42 pm UTC (link)
Not that I would want to in any way attempt to defend Bush, but...

I am wondering what they actually spent the 1.2 trillion on. The argument that the same funding exists to spend on schools or cancer research does not necessarily follow if a huge percentage of that money went to major US industries. That is:

- weapons and equipment suppliers (domestic manufacturing)
- defense service contracts (e.g. non-military transportation)

Plus, there are the projected win-falls of oil revenues and reconstruction contracts.

Unemployment numbers go down. Out of work? Get a job making guns, and if that fails join the Army. Lack of success at that job is the solution to its own problem, capitalism at work. (with the deepest apologies for my crass sarcasm to anyone reading this who has lost a loved one)

Spending gazillions on the military, military infrastructure, weapons, vehicles etc. served the U.S. and its allies (for example we Canadians sold lots of ammunition to the U.S. during the Vietnam War) very well, and kept the ol' economy ticking along. With the inconvenient end of that conflict, what's an American administration to do? Try a (Never Ending) War on Drugs. When that isn't enough, start the (Never Ending) War on Terror.

Ah war. The solution to so many of life's little problems.

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Re: Who got the 1.2 trillion?
[info]zestyping
2007-01-24 09:51 pm UTC (link)
Of course the money exists to spend on other things. The government has direct control over how it spends money on the military. Money dictates how people direct their efforts. Either you can spend a trillion dollars motivating people to make weapons and fight with each other, or you can spend it motivating people to teach and heal each other. Both options fund industries that employ a lot of people and stimulate the economy.

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Re: Who got the 1.2 trillion?
[info]waymark
2007-01-25 07:50 am UTC (link)
There is the question of expected return. If you expect to control all the oil in the middle east to then sell it to a resource hungry Chinese economy, that is big bucks coming state-side. This is especially important if your friends and political allies are all big business, defense contractors and oil companies.

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